“Wait, So is this a night out together?” Podcast Episode 209: Bottoming with Chingy | Autostraddle

Let us make some sound your soles inside your home! (It is me, the underside at home.) Bottom lifestyle is actually quite a Thing™ using the internet lately! Exactly what can it really imply as a bottom? Exactly why has the culture decided bottoming is actually similar to getting afraid to inquire of for just what you prefer? And just how does one go-about determining when they fancy bottoming?!

With all of these concerns rattling around the thoughts, requiring responses, Drew and that I realized there is singular person we’re able to go to for a rounded, enthusiastic dialogue about bottoming: The Gay Chingy AKA Chingy Nea, AKA the base Supreme. Chingy is amongst the finest people i am aware composing and tweeting now, and also as a bottom me, Im honored to call the woman my personal frontrunner. Chingy allows us to tease just what it way to be a bottom, why she dislikes “smol bean” bottom part culture, the body as hole, as well as your human anatomy as

whole

. Its an extremely gorgeous talk, easily do say so myself! Kindly realize i realize that I state “gorgeous” approximately three thousand occasions this occurrence, I am also looking for assistance for my personal condition. (The condition is speaking like 57 year old white gay man.)

And! This week’s game requires myself guessing in the event that challenging plots Drew defines participate in a film or a dream she had circa 2006. It is hard!


SHOW RECORDS

+ Read Chingy’s
Bottom Manifesto
, follow her
on Twitter
and
IG
!

+listed here is a listing of all movies that Drew utilized in her video game:


  • The Seventh Seal

    (1937)

  • Bringing Up Kid

    (1938)


  • Pierrot ce Fou


    (1965)

  • Ebony Swan

    (2010)

+Watch Anna Faris do the most readily useful work of the woman profession in

Smiley Face!


+Let

Shohreh Aghdashloo talk that sleep while dressed as Chrisjen


Avasarala


from

The Expanse

as you deserve that.


+Cindy Wilson on the B52s is quite hot and frankly? “Love Shack” still whips!


+
Robert Mitchum
, stone cold fox.



EPISODE


Chingy

: i have only already been bottoming since I ended up being, I’m not sure, as far back as i will recall.


Drew

: Cue Rags to Riches from

Goodfellas.


Chingy

: dating back to I am able to remember, I always wished to end up being a base, no, but types of

[intro plays]


Drew

: Hi, I’m Drew.


Christina

: I’m Christina.


Drew

: Thanks for visiting

Wait, Is It a romantic date

?


Christina

:

Wait, So Is This a night out together?

is an Autostraddle podcast centered on usually the one, the only the greatest concern of your occasions: hold off, So is this a night out together?


Drew

: And, wow, I absolutely merely froze upwards indeed there.


Christina

: I was like, oh shit, I found myself expected to say one thing! [laughs]


Drew

: I’m actually quick towards banter, my personal head merely… The truth is that I found myself reading over my game notes, which we aren’t at yet because we still have to present ourselves. Thus, I’m going to make an effort to stay dedicated to one task each time.


Christina

: Focus up!


Drew

: i am Drew Gregory, i’m a writer for Autostraddle, and a filmmaker, and a trans girl.


Christina

: Hi, i’m Christina Tucker, forgot my personal final title for a hot moment, no fuss. I’m in addition a writer at Autostraddle along with other places on the internet, a podcaster, a meet gay black lady. That’s particular it, puppy, that is me personally.


Drew

: I favor it. Okay, today we-


Christina

: today the video game.


Drew

: Can we play the online game?


Christina

: Can we get right to the video game? I’m able to let you know’re thrilled, I will tell you’re simply shaking.


Drew

: Thus, I’ve been keeping an aspiration record since 2007, therefore the assumption within this online game is-


Christina

: I didn’t know this about you!


Drew

: Yes, it is not as informed today, I accustomed jot down all my goals and then its only once one thing actually sticks. But, the idea within this video game is, am we describing the story of an aspiration I got when I had been a teenager, or are we explaining the plot of a film that I loved once I was actually a teenager?


Christina

: Oh man, fine.


Drew

: very, how it’s going to get is I’ll usually describe it a dream plus the most important individual. Therefore, when it was actually

Star Wars,

I’d wind up as, I’m in room and I also’m combating included in a rebellion, and there’s a bad  man that’s wearing a black colored robot fit and it works out he is my father. That is how I’ll describe it, how we describe hopes and dreams, but often it would be a dream, often it’ll be from a film. Prepared?


Christina

: i am one thing, I am not sure that i am prepared, but let us rock. Let us see what i could carry out right here.


Drew

: Okay, I’m on a beach and that I see this strange man dressed in black colored. The guy tells me which he’s Death and we also can take advantage of a casino game to decide basically live or if perhaps the guy requires me personally. We are able to escape, but almost everywhere I go, people are unwell and I feel like Death remains after me.The only pleased part occurs when I satisfy a theater troupe and they are a lot of fun.


Christina

: This,In my opinion, is actually an aspiration.


Drew

: this will be Ingmar Bergman’s

The Seventh Seal

from 1957.


Christina

: it is going to be a real gotcha on CT’s classic flick knowledge, because the things I realize Drew, inside puberty, had not been carrying out was seeing movies that i will recognize. At this stage, i am types of hoping that I have seen none of them. In my opinion that’ll be more fun for my situation.


Drew

: the next one, I’m ending up in my family and some Italian US gangsters. Among the gangsters needs that I provide more than some cash, but my loved ones and I also been able to escape. We hightail it through all this arctic terrain, traveling I satisfy an actress and get in touch with this lady. We land in a suburb. I think we are going to start a fresh existence together until she takes us to a large residence, and I realize it belongs to the gangster. It had been all a trap, the gangster arrives so there’s a confrontation. I kill him, the fantasy ends aided by the celebrity performing a musical wide variety.


Christina

: Is it a movie?


Drew

: This would be a dream I got in 2008.


Christina

: Okay, wow. Boy, yeah, i assume i must understand that its 2000, it’s old school Drew mind. That’s what i must bear in mind.


Drew

: In addition similar, what flicks had been we watching during the time and just how much did that influence my ambitions?


Christina

: Well, yeah, demonstrably quite a lot!


Drew

: a great truth is that I was actually, I didn’t add this because I thought this would have away, nevertheless gangster was Tony Soprano because I was watching

The Sopranos

in 2008. Very, which is a fun small reality. Okay, next one, You will find a significant project, but this hot lady appears and starts distracting me. I would like to be together, but I also need to get my work completed, so I inform this lady to go out of. She helps to keep following myself. All of a sudden, a leopard looks inside my space and I have to spend the rest of the dream trying to get the leopard. I’m nonetheless actually nervous, We never complete might work, but about the girl is hot.


Christina

: This has is an aspiration you have, it’s are a Drew dream.


Drew

: This is Howard Hawks’

Mentioning Child

from 1938.


Christina

: No, but that is a dream you have, this is the the majority of Drew fantasy I heard. Today at this time, i am merely likely to be rewriting flick background, to accommodate my whims.


Drew

: Great, I adore that. Okay, I’m at a celebration and I also you should not enjoy any person there. Eventually, we see this woman, we used to have a crush on so we opt to leave collectively. We visit the woman home, but they are chased down by this selection of guys that wanting to eliminate the lady. We end on a beach and it also may seem like we will be ok until the males select all of us. She ends up being into this various other guy, thus I simply take cartoonish dynamite and decide to blow my self up


Christina

: Movie.


Drew

: this is certainly! That is Jean Luc Goddard’s

Pierrot ce Fou

, from 1965.


Christina

: have never viewed, but that appears like a ding dang motion picture to me.


Drew

: Great, Everyone loves it. There’s a narration describing an odd motorboat like construction which is impossible to damage. I am going on a retreat nearby the construction, the escape is sort of movie theater connected, type of religious. I’ve a crush on this subject lady at the retreat, but this lady has a boyfriend. Amid the shows and traditions, there’s a lot of crisis between me personally and this also girl and her date, it finishes beside me by yourself. There’s been a sequence disclosing the watercraft framework is actually impossible to destroy because a mechanical arm fixes it within the evening.


Christina

: that would be any such thing in numerous means, i’ll say flick once more, you will want to?


Drew

: It is an aspiration from 2011, that performed have narration from someone else, you realize, it happens!


Christina

: This is really great promo to have an aspiration journal, because personally i think want it could well be fun if I could remember my fantasies in this way.


Drew

: no body likes when you describe your aspirations in their mind. I really do though, and I’m your own buddy, when you need take note of your own dreams and let me know, i might like to hear about them.


Christina

: Okay, which is really nice to know.


Drew

: You will find two a lot more.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: I’m in a lovely garden with a group of buddies, we appear to be waking up from becoming drugged. We are forced to shower in an acid that drains pigment so we turn out to be golden-haired and blue-eyed. People responsible start training united states to destroy, as it happens this place has been run by a crazy dictator, we reject acquiring totally brainwashed. There is this woman here You will find a crush on and I persuade the girl to leave with me, while escaping I get recorded and slain, nevertheless girl becomes out. When she departs the prison, she understands we are in the center of a forest so there’s nowhere to visit.


Christina

: Film.


Drew

: that might be the most important dream inside my fantasy log from, we mentioned, “2007.” Is in reality 2006.


Christina

: Wow.


Drew

: i usually thought it actually was fascinating that I perish inside the fantasy, nevertheless the other person goes on on. But now, absolutely some unusual sex things happening truth be told there, and I also’m browsing must consider this 1 for a while.


Christina

: Definitely do this.


Drew

: Okay, I have another.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: i am given the possible opportunity to end up being a dancer, my mother insists I won’t have the ability to exercise. Absolutely this different woman from inside the program which I think is actually hot, but i am worried she is going to replace myself. I am struggling in rehearsal, but end upwards leaving making use of woman, we attach. This really is hot, but I feel me losing control, we go back to the dance tv series. My own body appears to be morphing into something else, I’m concerned that i’ll mess up.


Christina

: that is a motion picture.


Drew

: Therefore,

Black Swan

.


Christina

: Yes, which

Black Swan

, definitely.


Drew

: maybe you have viewed

Ebony Swan

? Which was one I thought you observed.


Christina

: I have come across

Black Swan

, I… Fun reality, I went on a date with men to see

Dark Swan

.


Drew

: Wow.


Christina

: only directly circumstances i did so.


Drew

: that was that like?


Christina

: crazy, it had been strange.


Drew

: Did you such as the film? Performed the guy just like the motion picture?


Christina

: i do believe, I got already observed it, i do believe I was similar, “Let’s go notice it again.” In my opinion, I found myself extremely pro

Dark Swan,

and right heterosexual explanations, certainly.


Drew

: Sure, okay.


Christina

: And, he had been like, “which was weird.” And I also was want, “Oh well, we aren’t going to continue to date.”


Drew

: Wow, well I wish him the number one, i really hope he’s someplace doing well. Thanks for playing the game beside me.


Christina

: Wow, I’m thus grateful I went two for however many we did on that.


Drew

: perhaps not bad.


Christina

: perhaps not terrible.


Drew

: You did a lot better than Elise performed when I wanted to find out if this is a practical game that could operate, and she had been my personal guinea-pig. Thus, she just had gotten one right.


Christina

: reasonable sufficient.


Drew

: Should we proceed to the primary topic regarding the week?


Christina

: Let’s get into it, let us understand this unique visitor in.


Drew

: Well, I want to first say that all of our primary topic of this few days is bottoming, therefore we could have only one extremely special visitor.


Christina

: its just one person.


Drew

: is it possible to please present your self?


Chingy

: Hi, I’m Chingy Nea, otherwise known as The Gay Chingy. I’m a Writer, Filmmaker, and gasian leather-based dyke muppet. I am in addition America’s number 1 bottom.


Christina

: Yes, i believe as soon as we happened to be speaking about subjects therefore we’re like, “we can easily explore bottoming there’s practically singular person we could have on the pod to do so, there’s one individual who is fairly actually the Supreme.”


Chingy

: Thanks a lot for identifying, it feels very good to have the wonder respected, thanks


Christina

: Yes, therefore’ve completed great work, and here the audience is recognizing it.


Drew

: I want to know whenever you feel like you turned into The united states’s best base. Whenever was actually that a word and a label and an identity you really conducted onto?


Chingy

: Well, thus I usually only say, “I’m The Bottom Supreme.” Because, whom cares about The usa?


Drew

: Sure.


Christina

: reasonable enough.


Chingy

: Yeah, i do believe that i was effective in bottoming, but then in 2017 or something like that, I went along to a play celebration that was just for fem top sadists defeating myself upwards for six to seven many hours right, and it was just me, and I also was actually like, “Oh, I’m the number one which is actually ever already been.” After which, i believe after that, i recently kept increasing and being, wow, i am therefore fun to look at. Wow, I’m therefore entertaining as a bottom, this will be wow, everyone which gets to top me personally can be so lucky. And, it went from there, i do believe, and I penned articles also known as I’m a better Bottom versus You. Discover Why. It actually was types of a manifesto, it was a bottom manifesto.


Christina

: certainly, can confirm.


Chingy

: And, many individuals have actually explained, “It is changed how they take a look at intercourse.” And, I like that many. It is the one article back at my web site that i have written truth be told there. I have created at

Vice

,

Teen Fashion

,

Vulture

—

Autostraddle

was actually the initial destination we published, really. But yeah, that’s the one blog back at my site, if you would like try it out.


Christina

: i really like a very good brand name, I favor knowing a brand name, and I believe’s really attractive, only, brand name handling of your own personal bottomy yourself. I believe, that’s truly breathtaking to see.


Chingy

: many thanks, I managed to get my personal first authorship chance at

Autostraddle

because I became writing about being a base, being poly, being actually strong into becoming a leather dyke. And since subsequently, i have began to write about a number of other items, but being bottom great only kind of will be the one through collection of every thing.


Christina

: Yes.


Drew

: In addition feel just like you are a really energetic bottom plus in the way which you come up with, and explore, and that I presume experience bottoming that you’re really energetic. While, i do believe there are many the queer community, perhaps, especially the lesbian neighborhood, that possibly thinks of bottoming as… I don’t know-


Chingy:

Passivity

.


Christina

: Mm-hmm

(Affirmative)

.


Drew

: Yeah.


Chingy

: Yeah, I usually point out that there’s way less bottoms than men and women think are bottoms. I believe there is a change between getting a bottom and just not knowing or seeking what you need. I believe those are a couple of entirely different things that people conflate.


Christina

: i might need to concur, I additionally think the way in which you discuss bottoming is, i am talking about, why don’t we simply say it, so much significantly less aggravating compared to method more and more people speak about being a bottom or identify with bottom culture. Because, I do feel that what many are saying clearly or non clearly is just, i will be idle nor care and attention to complete any type of motion, task, et-cetera, i would really like things done to myself. And, basically have to seek that call at in whatever way, that hurts my personal emotions. And, you’re so good so powerful at getting, they are points that i’d like, bring them to myself and I will rock the globe. Which attractive in my opinion.


Chingy

: thanks, i am talking about, that’s what you should do to be effective in simply some thing, you need to place your self on the market and try making blunders and obtain harm a bit, and, I’m not sure, study on it.


Christina

: I think that’s a beneficial message, frankly.


Chingy

: i have merely already been bottoming since I was actually, I’m not sure, as far back as I am able to bear in mind. [laughs]


Drew

: Cue “Rags to Riches” from

Goodfellas

.


Chingy

: Yeah, as far back as I am able to bear in mind, i usually wished to end up being a bottom. No, but sort of, whenever I was actually 13 or 14, I became already checking out SADOMASOCHISM websites and lesbian SADOMASOCHISM websites. Very, I wasn’t under any delusions as to what I became in regards to, I found myself having women I dated in senior school choke myself , I knew what I wanted. And so, that degree of consciousness recently given me personally a number of years to know what Needs and figure out how to obtain it.


Christina

: Gorgeous, Drew, give me your emotions on bottoming.


Drew

: Well, i am in fact really thrilled to talk about this because personally i think like in 2019 {when I|as I|while